「QUESTION」☆Deformer parenting issue?

FxaYuan · April 2014

Hi live2d friends、 I run into a problem with deformer、on the video tutorial and seminary [the newest video] it explain when you create deformer on certain object、 you can make a parent instant。

So I tried that method。
first I click part A and then create deformer ①、 the result is A with a deformer ①。

---- [ ] deformer ①
└----- part A

but when I want to create parent deformer、 which mean I click part A again [with previous deformer] and click create deformer、 the result is the new defomer move inside deformer 1 and GIVE AN ERROR LOG 「error log included」

---- [ ] deformer ①
|-----deformer ②
└-----part A

And what I want is:

---- [ ] deformer ②
└----- [ ] deformer ①
└----- part A

so, how to archive those effect, is that I do a wrong step or live2d bug?

Thank you

FxaYuan · April 2014

because spacing don't work in this forum, I change the space into dot symbol [.]

The result give me effect like this:

---- [+] deformer ①
..........|-----deformer ②
.........└-----part A

but, this what I want to be:

---- [+] deformer ②
.........└----- [+] deformer ①
.......................└----- part A

how to archive those effect?
instantly put a new deformer into a parent of existing deformer?

Tod · April 2014

Instead of selecting the first deformer, select the drawable object again to create another deformer that serves as a parent of both the object and the first deformer.

To do this step-by-step, see the following page and find [Useful Hint] How to set several Deformers as a parent for one part
http://sites.cybernoids.jp/cubism_e/modeler/basic/deformer/placement-basic

FxaYuan · April 2014

yes, as I said on the previous post Tod. I have select the drawable object again to create deformer ②, but the result still the same:

---- [+] deformer ①
..........|-----deformer ②
.........└-----part A

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http://sites.cybernoids.jp/cubism_e/modeler/basic/deformer/placement-basic
First, click “Create Deformer” button while selecting a drawable object that you want to set to be a child. [DONE]

Click the arrow button to select the drawable object again. [DONE]

set “Associated Deformer” [DONE]

Result? [error]

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you can see the error video here:
https://fs13n4.sendspace.com/dl/76d426019b4e64edcd4ff385fcbd4d49/535504f752be058a/ehbtja/deformer error.mp4

I have tried different computer, but its always give me an error, and undesirable result.

Tod · April 2014

Ah, you reduced the size of the first deformer. As the Documents page clearly states, "Enlarge the Deformer with pressing [Ctrl + Shift + Alt] keys."

You can go back to change the size of the first deformer afterwards.

FxaYuan · April 2014

ah! I see... we must enlarge it first,
so the deformer can go into that place.

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Here is the logic:

I thought we must make the 1st defomer smaller, [presume a new deformer as a parents]
so the new second deformer can be a parent of it,
※since child must be smaller than parents
this my way of thinking:

---- [+] 2nd new deformer
.........└----- [+] 1st deformer
.......................└----- part A

but Tod (staff) tells me that I'm wrong, actually Live2d make a new deformer as a child, not parents.
that's why we must enlarge it first.

---- [+] 1st deformer
.........└----- [+] 2nd new deformer
.......................└----- part A

===============================
"A Deformer is created.
Enlarge the Deformer with pressing [Ctrl + Shift + Alt] keys."

In my humbly opinion, I think it's better to add explanation
about why we must enlarge it or simply add "important" sign,
or add sentences like "Enlarge it, otherwise it won't work."

■Anyway, thank you for your patience to explain it to me Tod (staff)

Tod · April 2014

Thanks for your input Forbesii, Documents team made it clear!!!
http://sites.cybernoids.jp/cubism_e/modeler/basic/deformer/placement-basic

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