「QUESTION」☆Deformer parenting issue?

FxaYuan

Hi live2d friends、 I run into a problem with deformer、on the video tutorial and seminary [the newest video] it explain when you create deformer on certain object、 you can make a parent instant。

So I tried that method。
first I click part A and then create deformer ①、 the result is A with a deformer ①。

---- [ ] deformer ①
└----- part A

but when I want to create parent deformer、 which mean I click part A again [with previous deformer] and click create deformer、 the result is the new defomer move inside deformer 1 and GIVE AN ERROR LOG 「error log included」

---- [ ] deformer ①
|-----deformer ②
└-----part A

And what I want is:

---- [ ] deformer ②
└----- [ ] deformer ①
└----- part A


so, how to archive those effect, is that I do a wrong step or live2d bug?

Thank you

FxaYuan

because spacing don't work in this forum, I change the space into dot symbol [.]

The result give me effect like this:

---- [+] deformer ①
..........|-----deformer ②
.........└-----part A


but, this what I want to be:

---- [+] deformer ②
.........└----- [+] deformer ①
.......................└----- part A

how to archive those effect?
instantly put a new deformer into a parent of existing deformer?

Tod

Instead of selecting the first deformer, select the drawable object again to create another deformer that serves as a parent of both the object and the first deformer.

To do this step-by-step, see the following page and find [Useful Hint] How to set several Deformers as a parent for one part
http://sites.cybernoids.jp/cubism_e/modeler/basic/deformer/placement-basic

FxaYuan

yes, as I said on the previous post Tod. I have select the drawable object again to create deformer ②, but the result still the same:

---- [+] deformer ①
..........|-----deformer ②
.........└-----part A

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http://sites.cybernoids.jp/cubism_e/modeler/basic/deformer/placement-basic
First, click “Create Deformer” button while selecting a drawable object that you want to set to be a child. [DONE]

Click the arrow button to select the drawable object again. [DONE]

set “Associated Deformer” [DONE]

Result? [error]



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you can see the error video here:
https://fs13n4.sendspace.com/dl/76d426019b4e64edcd4ff385fcbd4d49/535504f752be058a/ehbtja/deformer error.mp4

I have tried different computer, but its always give me an error, and undesirable result.

Tod

Ah, you reduced the size of the first deformer. As the Documents page clearly states, "Enlarge the Deformer with pressing [Ctrl + Shift + Alt] keys."

You can go back to change the size of the first deformer afterwards.

FxaYuan

ah! I see... we must enlarge it first,
so the deformer can go into that place.

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Here is the logic:

I thought we must make the 1st defomer smaller, [presume a new deformer as a parents]
so the new second deformer can be a parent of it,
※since child must be smaller than parents
this my way of thinking:

---- [+] 2nd new deformer
.........└----- [+] 1st deformer
.......................└----- part A


but Tod (staff) tells me that I'm wrong, actually Live2d make a new deformer as a child, not parents.
that's why we must enlarge it first.

---- [+] 1st deformer
.........└----- [+] 2nd new deformer
.......................└----- part A

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"A Deformer is created.
Enlarge the Deformer with pressing [Ctrl + Shift + Alt] keys."

In my humbly opinion, I think it's better to add explanation
about why we must enlarge it or simply add "important" sign,
or add sentences like "Enlarge it, otherwise it won't work."


■Anyway, thank you for your patience to explain it to me Tod (staff)

Tod

Thanks for your input Forbesii, Documents team made it clear!!!
http://sites.cybernoids.jp/cubism_e/modeler/basic/deformer/placement-basic